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☆ ∙ Showcase & Links / Re: Multiplayer Worm ~~~~
« on: June 07, 2022, 11:44:27 pm »
It is!
Its a multiplayer worm! Every tab counts as a separate player. So whenever the worm is fed it thanks all players, no matter where they are :omg:

797
✑ ∙ Writers Corner / Make up dumb pomes!
« on: June 07, 2022, 07:55:31 pm »
Hello! Please write dumb pomes here! The only rule is that you must write now, it cant have been posted anywhere before or written offline!

I will start!

The moose is tall, they eat lots of grass, oh moose, why are you so tall! The moose does not say, the moose does not care, they are a moose, tall and fair :ohdear:

798
☔︎ ∙ Help & Tutorials / Re: HELP: songs in websites
« on: June 07, 2022, 02:04:33 pm »
(Yep this is fine, Is there anything I can do to make the boards purpose more obvious??)

Oh thanks for asking, this is quite a common topic Iv seen come up. In short, no there is no unspoken rule, it comes down to personal choice.

Websites are not like YouTube, if you put Sk8ter Boi as your background music Avril Lavigne is not gonna show up at your house and bully you into deleting your website :omg:k: Neocities does not delete or punish sites that have copyrighted stuff (Unless you're like running and entire piracy site).

However the question I'd ask is.. how "Serious" is your site? Is it a personal site for your hobbies? Or is your site part of a larger project that sells your art or games etc?
* If its a personal site - don't worry about it, you can do anything.
* If its a more serious site you might want to be a little more careful about what you use.

My site is a little more "serious" because I use it has a hub for my work, and this community etc. So my rule of thumb is this:
  • I try to use copyright free music and assets when possible.
  • I try to link back to music creators on my hyperlinks page.
  • If I use a copyrighted song, I use a cover or a midi version of it, not the original.
  • I try and avoid songs that are too intrusive/loud on important pages.

So ultimately its about what feels right to you. Often when I'm picking songs for my site, I will try like 10-100 different songs before I find one that suits the page and I'll look at a lot of different sources for that music!

Also general tips for songs on sites:
* Import the song to Audacity, trim off any silence or excess sounds.
* Lower the volume by 2dB, that makes it less intrusive.
* Export it as an mp3 between 48-64 kbps depending on its length. (Aim to keep the file under 1mb when possible)
* Optionally export it as an ogg as well, with low quality. OGG files sound better, but don't work in some browsers like Safari. You can put both in an <audio> tag, and the browser will pick the one it can use.


799
Works for me too! We got there in the end :grin:

800
✁ ∙ Web Crafting / Re: Building my site from the ground up!
« on: June 06, 2022, 01:58:47 pm »
Yep this is the place for this! It seems like a totally solid idea, and I'm glad the guide was useful to you!

You can study MSBob and Packard Bell Navigator for ideas:


You'll prob want to aim for your pixel room to be around 1000px wide, that will allow it to fit on most screens without issues!

As for placing objects I have a trick for that!
Plonk this script on your page, and give all the objects you want to position the class "floater" and a unique ID (on the a tag so they work as links).
Add this CSS:
Code
      .floater {
        position: absolute;
        float: left;
        color: white;
        top: 0;
        left: 0;
      }

      .floater img {
        display: block;
      }
Then you'll be able to drag them to the positions you want.
Finally press any key and it will spit out CSS code (on the browser console) for the positions you currently have things dragged to.
Just copy and paste that CSS onto your html page and next time you reload everything will be where you dragged it to :cheesy: (Them remove the script, links don't work while the script is installed)

It sounds really fun! I look forward to seeing it :ozwomp:

P.S. Image resizing - There is a BBCode help button in the footer, and its explained here :grin:

801
❤︎ ∙ Greetings and Introductions / Re: hello hello :D
« on: June 06, 2022, 01:07:15 pm »
Hi Veeeee, I like your site! I'm glad you found the forum, welcome :4u:

Computer Sci is a great thing to learn (as someone who went through it) but don't get too stuck in the technology, sometimes the more you know the less you seeeee :eyes: I'll let you know how the game design goes, Im still working on that too! Its a weird time for games, so many companies are being bought out.. I think we are gonna end up with 5 huge studios (Sony, Microsoft etc) and then lots of indie devs..

Ooo-- You've Received Melon's Welcome Pack --ooO
* If you haven't already check out the forum welcome post, and forum usage guide!
* New to website making? Here is a complete(ish) guide!
* Visit your look/layout to pick a theme and set a default colour/font for your messages!
* Feeling shy and unsure what to do? Maybe post a song you like here!
* Finally don't forget to share the forum and invite friends! We have some way cool graphics over here!

Also I have a tip for your site! (If you want one)
The icons change when you hover over them; but if its someones first time on the site there is a delay as the new hover image loads. I THINK, if you load your hover images at the end of your body with <img style="display: none;" src="XXX"/> it will pre load them and there will be no lag when someone hovers!

802
I just wanted to share a little trick I use for preparing images for the web. This is super handy if you are uploading screenshots or photographs to your site on a regular basis.

  • This guide requires a Mac using any vaguely modern OS.
  • First make sure you have ImageOptim installed in your Applications folder (its free)

Open Automator (it comes with your Mac) and create a new Automator Application; like this one:

Code
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:
cd "$HOME" || exit
/Applications/ImageOptim.app/Contents/MacOS/ImageOptim '/users/daniel/Desktop/image-output'
(Change the shell script to your name instead of "daniel":wink:

Save the autormator app to your desktop as "Web Compress Image". Done!

What does it do:
It creates an app on your desktop called "Web Compress Image", when you drag and drop an image onto that app it will..
  • Copy the image into a new folder so the original is not changed.
  • Resize the image to a max of 1000px wide (plenty big enough for any website)
  • Convert the image to a jpeg so it loads faster on the web
  • Runs ImageOptim on the image so that its fully compressed.
You can then upload the new compressed image to your website, and it was all done in one mouse move!

Handy extra tip: If you use Transmit for uploading files, you can go to Servers/Save as Droplet and make a ":grin:roplet" app that allows you to drag your image onto the droplet where it will be automaticity uploaded and a link will be copied to your clipboard!


803
✁ ∙ Web Crafting / Re: What do you use to code websites?
« on: June 05, 2022, 03:46:54 pm »
Iv used a bunch over the years, at the moment I use Nova! Partly because it looks cool but also because it has a built in WebDAV publishing feature that tracks your changes and pushes them to neocities from within the program, its SUPER HANDY.

The main things I look for in an editor: Easy publishing to my host; auto complete of HTML, CSS and JS; A built in colour picker for CSS; built in HTML and CSS validators; reliable local preview system; themes I like; a good file manager and an interface that's not too confusing or slow.

If I was to pick a free editor though Id use VSCode; it does almost all those things, its just lacking webdav publishing and the interface is a bit confusing.


804
➶ ∙ Art & Games Gallery / Re: Behold: I finished a new painting
« on: June 05, 2022, 11:57:43 am »
Hmmmmm, it reminds me of the secret of monkey island? Is that what its based on?? :eyes:

~~

Also image uploads: scroll down for the BBCode help button on every page; you gotta upload the image to your website and then put its url in the bbcode image tag!

805
☕︎ ∙ Fun & Forum Games / Re: Word Association
« on: June 04, 2022, 01:31:05 pm »
Jazz - (because of this song)


806
So stripped down to the absolute basics, this is what your code needs:
Code
<html>
	<head></head>
	<body>
		<a href="mainbody.html" target="iframe_main">Back</a>
		<a href="new_aboutc.html" target="iframe_main">About the name</a>
		<iframe src="mainbody.html" name="iframe_main"></iframe>
	</body>
</html>

An iFrame is essentially just a tab or a window within your website.
You have an iFrame called "iframe_main" and two links. The links are targeted at the "iframe_main" so their hrefs will open inside it. The iframe also opens the mainbody.html by default.

Hopefully that helps :tongue:

807
☞ ∙ Life on the Web / Re: Wikipedia appreciation thread!
« on: June 03, 2022, 08:27:02 pm »
Hm, what would be something that I know enough about, that isn't already on Wikipedia? That's like a good icebreaker question.
There's no articles for the web revival, the yesterweb or a bunch of other niche web related stuff (although they may not be relevant enough to have articles yet). I imagine the same is true for a lot of smaller things!

And totally, I love looking up countries that I don't know much about; particularly if I see them in a movie or in the news!

But that was a year ago so things might have changed, but currently I don't want to take part in that.
So I was inspired to start this thread by this documentary; I'm not sure if it will answer your question, but it might demystify the site for you and help you form your own opinion!


808
☞ ∙ Life on the Web / Wikipedia appreciation thread!
« on: June 03, 2022, 12:10:02 pm »
:4u: Wikipedia! :4u:

I just wanted to take a moment to think about Wikipedia and to encourage people to take part in it if they have time!

If you did not know; Wikipedia (the online encyclopaedia site) is a free community run site. It has no ads; its entirely run by its community. That community has to write articles, update articles constantly with new info and manage all the spam and rubbish that any large internet site receives on a daily basis!

Its one of the few and last parts of the true early web spirit of free information.

The best thing you can do to support Wikipedia is to write and update articles there! If you see info that is outdated, update it! If you know of something that's missing from the site, make an article for it!

It does not have to be perfect to start with, other people will improve it over time; the point is that without this kind of work, we may one day loose the site, and I think that would be super sad. Wikipedia servers billions of people, but less than a hundred thousand actually contribute articles to it.

Here is their guide to editing articles.
and here is their official guide to starting your first article.


809
I think I'd need to see what your trying to do here, this seems like a really unusual use of iframes!

Typically people have one iframe, and they load different pages into that iframe; but are you trying to have multiple iframes with different pages loading into them? Whats the goal of having links that open in iframes if the iframes already load those linked pages by default?

Also side note; you cant have two things on a page with the same id; an id can only ever be used once per page! :melon:

810
I just noticed my web revival page was being discussed on "Hacker News" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31552476

There are some interesting points made here! Definitely some misunderstanding about the nature of the web revival verses 90s aesthetics that perhaps I should clarify in my article more :ohdear: (We don't all want 90s aesthetics, thats just a style a lot of us use)

I think the thing they really miss though is that:
  • I don't think the web revival will ever be the ENTIRE internet, its just one small part of it.
  • These sites are not tryna solve any technical issues, its an artistic movement and the point is too have fun!

If you wanna give it a read though Id love to hear other peoples thoughts!


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