Web accounts/sites when you die? 💀

[Melooon]

I think its important to be pragmatic about mortality; we are all mortal, we all have a limited thread, and when our time is done, it's very much done 

Something I've been thinking about recently is, what would happen to my sites and projects if I died tomorrow; what would happen to this forum, my website etc etc. This was also partly inspired by other topics about the risks of domain names.

I also think this is an interesting topic for this community because so many of us run websites, or host web resources that others love or depend on; yet at the same time we are individuals, we don't have big company teams to keep things going without us.

How can we keep running after we are gone? Or at least gracefully shut down our online lives when the time comes.

My personal plan is to create a physical document with master passwords to my password managers and instructions on how to get into them; that document will be given to a few trusted family members, or maybe given to a law firm as part of my will.

In my password manager, I'll keep an up-to-date document that provides instructions on what services I'm currently running and what needs to be done to ensure everything goes smoothly.

For those curious these changes would happen if I died:

• Most of my Neocities sites would be untouched
• Melonland.Net and Melonking.Net would be set up to renew indefinitely
• Melonking.net would have a pre-written goodbye note posted to the news feed
• The forum would be moved into read-only mode along with the surf club (although maybe someone could take it over)
• Backend servers would be switched off and disconnected.
• Emails would automatically be set to respond with a note explaining the situation
• I don't have many social accounts, so those would mostly be ignored!

Don't worry though, I plan to hang around till Im at least 90    But it's still good to be ready!

[GHOUL]

i feel like that could be a new fun section to add to a will!! like how someone who owns a business could put who owns it next after them. would you consider adding an heir to your websites in the same way?? (well like i THINK that’s how it works— i’ve never had to write a will or help somebody do it.)

i don’t think i would for my website because it’s mostly personal, but i might ask that my older sister or somebody add a page with really detailed instructions explaining the sudden stop in activity. maybe i could pre-code that and then it’s like a… just make this active and edit the text however relevant. : )

idk though!! i think by the time i’m old and dying, i’m unsure if the internet would be the same as it is now!! and i dunno if i’d be running any websites!! i’d like to move out into the boonies one day to never resurface… dream life <3 so upon that kind of departure, maybe just a “smell ya l8r (never).” page and then a deletion after.

edit: YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE FUN? a really bangin online funeral or something. some memorial service page. that would be pretty sad still, but a one last silly little hijink before i’m gone. : )

[Cele]

I wish my family members would at least have the brains to check my devices where I'm online, like Discord etc and inform people of my fate. They wouldn't have the skills to touch my websites though or anything. So I guess I'd just disappear.

(My biggest wish is that, when destroying and getting rid of all of my property, they'd at the very least save my notebooks of my conlang. Maybe someone in the family, generations later, would find that interesting. I sure would, if I found something like from passed down from a relative.)

[Melooon]

a really bangin online funeral or something. some memorial service page

That would be fun! Maybe you could have some guestbook thing where people could leave flower emojis I can't remember where, but one of the first web shrines was literally a memorial shrine to someone's family member who passed away - it wasn't ironic, or cheesy, it was just a really honest way to memorialize them in a new medium (they had actually died in the 70s, so they never even knew what the web was, yet there was a shrine to them on it).

I know it seems a bit weird to suggest a shrine to ones-self, but it's not really for you, it's for your family - I think a lot of family members would really appreciate having your personal site online as a memorial when you're gone; it would make the web seem far more human at a hard time in their lives

they'd at the very least save my notebooks of my conlang

Things like this you've gotta be really clear about; make sure its digitised, and at least that they know you want it kept as an heirloom, if you think that might not work you can ask that it be donated to a local museum or library 

[brisray]

No one lives forever. I'm not planning on popping my clogs just yet but the inevitable has crosed my mind and I've had a couple of conversations with some of my more techie friends about it and what is going to happen to my sites. They also happen to be a lot younger than me whch helps.

Two of them have already promised to host the sites on their own servers. There's letters with my will that has the passwordss they'll need, to remind them of their obligations and neither of them is allowed to pick through my stuff until the sites are taken care of 

Hopefully some will add a page about my life. I felt I had to do that twice now, once for my dad and another for a frined of 40 years who decided he couldn't cope any more - https://brisray.com/will/

[Melooon]

for a frined of 40 years who decided he couldn't cope any more - https://brisray.com/will/

Thank you for sharing this! I enjoyed reading about Will and Im sorry to hear how it went; I think it's a great memorial though, for however long your site and the web last.

[Commodorn]

I know it seems a bit weird to suggest a shrine to ones-self, but it's not really for you, it's for your family - I think a lot of family members would really appreciate having your personal site online as a memorial when you're gone; it would make the web seem far more human at a hard time in their lives

This is a mindset I have when it comes to death in general. Many people feel a need to do something that they know their loved one would've wanted to be done in their memory. Or, at the very least, would've appreciated. That is why something like a choice of flowers, an online shrine, clothes, music for a funeral, or.. anything similar that can be requested in a will can be very important. I don't personally understand the need to do something solely for the dead since I deal with death very differently from most people, but it is something I've observed.. and in my will, I would include something like that for the sake of my loved ones.

 If I were to have something put up on my website or engraved on my tombstone after death, it'd almost certainly be something morbidly humorous. I would like it to communicate that life and death are completely absurd... and that's perfectly fine. What are you moping around about, anyway? I'm glad I'm off this godforsaken planet! It is riddled with unbearable amounts of illogic! I should- I should..     oh, wait.. I'm.. I forgot I'm not dead quite yet.

I haven't figured out how I would make a memorial page happen exactly, but I may create a thumb drive with my website and an extra HTML file of a "goodbye" page with directions on where to place it and how. I'd have the copy in case the original site goes down for some reason, but I'd also include the URL and login information for whatever host I'll be using in a (separate) word document or physical paper. If it happens to still be around by then.

Since it's somewhat related, here's an odd happening from my own father's funeral: Everyone was going up to a microphone to reflect on the past and say their goodbyes. There was someone (of whom I've never even met before) who came up and said something along the lines of "Up in heaven, he is painting a beautiful picture and smiling. Shortly, his two sons will join him, and he will welcome them with open arms."  ... He'll... shortly?? I'm never attending a funeral again!

[Cobra!]

I've never thought about it before, but it is something I should think about. I'd probably include a password to my password manager in my will. (on a floppy disk, maybe, as a final mark in the world to show the kind of person I was? :p)
Give whoever access the accounts to preserve the websites and other projects I work on. Maybe add a page explaining what happened to me.

Any source code from projects, cancelled or otherwise, should just be made public. If I can't make any more games or art, at least what has been made can be used to create more stuff, and provide more entertainment for years to come.

Going off topic a bit, it's gotten me thinking about physical things I own and make. Mainly my mixtapes. I would want whoever inherits them to listen to and watch them all one last time, and then digitise and upload it somewhere for others to enjoy. Then if they so wish, do whatever to the tapes. As long as they aren't auctioned off to someone not actually interested in them.
As for my game and movie collections, I want them to be sold to people or shops where they will get a good home. I don't want what I own to be used to make a profit for anyone. I want it all to go to people who will love them like I do now.

[Memory]

This reminded me of an old webcomic I used to read called Force Monkeys. It was hosted on GameSpy alongside Penny Arcade and was about a Jedi and Sith who were roommates and played video games.

When Force Monkeys ended, the writer and artist released a promo for their next project called "The Indomitable Mr. Stick". But that comic never ended up happening. Years later I decided to find out why. I looked up the Force Monkeys creators, found a blog for the writer but nothing for the artist. Eventually I found a blog written by the artist's mother revealing that he died after tripping in his bedroom and hitting his head.

That stuck with me ever since. It was really the first moment I realized how easily someone can just suddenly die and how someone who is known online can suddenly disappear and most people will never know why.

Whenever I eventually stop posting here, will it be because I get bored or busy and moved on, or did I choke on a grape? You'll probably never know. I have no plans for someone to inherit my accounts or provide an update after I die. If you're really curious you'll just have to search and hope you find something that reveals what happened. Maybe it'll stick with you in the same way.

[brisray]

"morbidly humorous" - something how I want to be remembered by my friends.

Mw and my wife have already agreed that who ever goes first gets wrapped in black bin liners and sat up on the sofa. At least until somebody starts asking too many questions. 

Aparently the best way to get rid of the problem is a couple of pigs or a feeezer and a big wood chipper.

[xandra]

these are great answers (and a great question, melon!). i've thought about this a lot, and i think the best course of action is to leave behind a master password that unlocks everything (to my password manager) with a set of directions. i plan to have my will/trust pay for my webhost (especially in the event of an untimely demise), but eventually, the only thing that will exist is archives. i hope my digital history will live on and join a greater archive of certain parts of the web, but it's okay if mine doesn't, too.

in my will, i have instructions on where to update my website with news of my passing, a final goodbye love letter to the life i had. links to all of my digital presences (like social media) will be there, but there will be no updates there.

love the idea of things automatically 'switching on' upon death, though. that's something worth exploring. maybe i'll leave a treasure map for digital sleuthers to find when i'm older. :)

[KiwiMeowo]

When I die, I do wish my family can tell my online friends and the followers on my site to know that I have passed. However, that would mean my family would know my online persona, which would be quite embarrassing. They know me as a quiet, shy girl, but online I am a demisexual artist who enjoys drawing muscular cat girls. They never learnt about how I act online, and I don't wanna know what their action will be if they know about my sexuality, but I will be dead by the time so does it matter?

For this site, what I worry the most is if the site get taken down for some reason, or Neocities gets closed like Geocities did. I don't think my family has the knowledge to host it somewhere else, maybe wayback machine will be able to archive some of my pages, but it would be nice if the website gets to stay up for a long time

[boreal_cryptid]

oh, i thought i am the only one (not literally) who thinks about it seriously. it shouldn't be considered "too negative" or "too weird" to talk about things like death and such. thank you for starting this thread, really. 

i have a link on NextCould folder with letters to my friends and instructions what to do with my digital and physical stuff. also my password manager file with all the passwords to my accounts and devices. some of my accounts will be deleted or deactivated, some will remain as an archive and... my steam account should go to one of my friends! pls don't say it to Vavle 

my sites will be online as long as my hosting sites are alive. this is the reason i don't buy domains or use paid hosts. i just wanna my creations to outlive me, you know? 

i'm worried about old books/postcards/photos about my culture/homeland though. i've scanned them, but i'm still not sure how to make a functional archive. probably will upload somewhere, dunno where yet. and donate physical versions to local library or museum maybe?

[Memory]

interesting..

i've always thought of being a spirit or something online still. even after i die probably just using some stupid bot to automate my own accounts. okay that sounded really weird but like i like weird things okay lmao

what does happen though? like..
your site would eventually likely be deleted since it's been inactive for a long time. by that point people might either assume you're dead or in something messy IRL. but usually i guess moderators and things don't really care all too much outside of "this site hasn't been active for [X] time and therefore it's just clogging up our system" or something. (/nsrs /lh)

weirdly enough for me i just wanna be immortal in some way. whether it be being transferred into a robotic body or even just being a weird phantom or something. it's weird that people just... cease to exist after a set amount of time which makes me wonder if we mean literally nothing and the whole universe is just made for things to die and be forgotten anyway.

[Julikins]

As far as my websites go, I would say leave them up but add the message that the owner/webmaster has gone off to a different reality or something otherworldly like that. 

I know our time here is temporary but I also want a way to leave some form of legacy despite the size. Even the physical changes we encourage tend to feel small, but I still do them because of how much they could alter the future for the children and grandchildren of the current generation years on down the line.

For my forum/socials, I'd say edit them to where I've passed on and if FB is still up - have them put the memorial stuff on for a week and then make one last post saying I'm going to the great beyond and delete the account since scammers would have a field day with that mess. Already had one friend of the family who's long past that had their account broken into and freaked everyone out.