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« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2024 @576.54 »

While I don't like the forum closing, I do agree that it can be confusing for people who don't expect it, especially if they don't know about @swatch time. Maybe you could include some countdown/progressbar on Sunday to display when it will shut down, and one on the closed page to display when it reopens? Also having the closed page redirect to the forum page after the timer runs out would be nice, or like a link back to the forum.
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« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2024 @744.31 »

Maybe you could include some countdown/progressbar on Sunday to display when it will shut down, and one on the closed page to display when it reopens? Also having the closed page redirect to the forum page after the timer runs out would be nice, or like a link back to the forum.
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Also also login systems, profiles and private messages should now be accessible on Mondays ~ if you try to login to access the everyone site it SHOULD work! (Untested :grin:)
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« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2024 @67.22 »

I think maybe its important to remember that the purpose of inconvenience is not to be convenient!  :tongue:

The forum closes on Monday because its an inconvenient day; its deliberately an impactful day to close.

but it doesn't close on monday for everyone. sometimes it's closed on sunday night for people. if the purpose is to be as inconvenient as possible, why not close on friday or saturday instead? it seems like maybe you chose a weekday for a reason, but if time zones mess with that too much, why not switch to a day that is a weekday for everyone?

at least then the level of inconvenience would be the same (or as similar as possible) for all users  :unite:
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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2024 @589.77 »

Yes, but maybe make an exception for useful pages (or at least feature them elsewhere). There have been times where I wanted to access the frame-link script on a Monday and it only being on this forum is a bit of an inconvenience.
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« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2024 @95.79 »

but it doesn't close on monday for everyone. sometimes it's closed on sunday night for people. if the purpose is to be as inconvenient as possible, why not close on friday or saturday instead? it seems like maybe you chose a weekday for a reason, but if time zones mess with that too much, why not switch to a day that is a weekday for everyone?

at least then the level of inconvenience would be the same (or as similar as possible) for all users  :unite:


I agree with this, I think it should either be a weekday for everybody or a weekend day for everyone. This is why I suggested Wednesday. It's in the middle of the week so weekends shouldn't be impacted. I get the idea behind the inconvenience, but I wish there was more transparency as to why Monday was chosen when it overlaps with a weekend night.

It seems like the goal is to have the site be closed on Mondays, but as many have stated, the time zone the site uses makes it overlap with Sunday evenings which interferes with usability. If the purpose was for the site to be closed on Sundays, then I'd understand the pushback, but it's not. So why not move it to a different weekeday?
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« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2024 @119.38 »

I like the countdown but please just use minutes instead of 'beats' or whatever.
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« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2024 @14.17 »

Hey! I've been thinking about this some and I came up with a potentially really silly idea to both lock it down and give some level of interaction on mondays:

what if the site was "frozen" every monday?

so, like my idea is that the site would be semi read-only, like you can still write post replies but they're basically saved as a draft. then when it hits @0 Tuesday, every post written on monday gets sent at the same time? maybe they could be colored differently or marked somehow to note that they were written in a freeze, and like maybe you can only write one message per thread? if you dont want it to be a avalance of new messages, you could alternatively have it stagger sending one message per user every 10 minutes or so until the queue is done, as long as they still appeared before the posts made tuesday.

again, this is a really silly idea and im fine if its not accepted but it would be nice to have a slow day to catch up on messages since im bad at letting a ton of unread messages pile up :>
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« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2024 @610.97 »

Hey! I've been thinking about this some and I came up with a potentially really silly idea to both lock it down and give some level of interaction on mondays:

what if the site was "frozen" every monday?

so, like my idea is that the site would be semi read-only, like you can still write post replies but they're basically saved as a draft. then when it hits @0 Tuesday, every post written on monday gets sent at the same time? maybe they could be colored differently or marked somehow to note that they were written in a freeze, and like maybe you can only write one message per thread? if you dont want it to be a avalance of new messages, you could alternatively have it stagger sending one message per user every 10 minutes or so until the queue is done, as long as they still appeared before the posts made tuesday.

again, this is a really silly idea and im fine if its not accepted but it would be nice to have a slow day to catch up on messages since im bad at letting a ton of unread messages pile up :>

Ooh! I love this idea! I second this!
In old forums that have closed down, you can still view them through the Internet Archive. Heck the Yesterweb forum has been closed for over a year and you can still view it in read-only form.
I know the Internet Archive was recently attacked and that has shown us a world without it, but hopefully more people will create their own archives and decentralise internet preservation.

Point is, you can read many forums closed long ago, so why not here?
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« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2024 @551.68 »

Hey! I've been thinking about this some and I came up with a potentially really silly idea to both lock it down and give some level of interaction on mondays:

what if the site was "frozen" every monday?

so, like my idea is that the site would be semi read-only, like you can still write post replies but they're basically saved as a draft. then when it hits @0 Tuesday, every post written on monday gets sent at the same time? maybe they could be colored differently or marked somehow to note that they were written in a freeze, and like maybe you can only write one message per thread? if you dont want it to be a avalance of new messages, you could alternatively have it stagger sending one message per user every 10 minutes or so until the queue is done, as long as they still appeared before the posts made tuesday.

again, this is a really silly idea and im fine if its not accepted but it would be nice to have a slow day to catch up on messages since im bad at letting a ton of unread messages pile up :>

I third this. But make the forum entirely read-only.

So the useful and important posts are still visible to someone who is coming from a search engine, and happens to visit the forum on monday. But make it read-only to give the moderators a little rest. Which was the entire point of closing the forum anyways.

And "close"* the forum on Sundays instead of mondays. So the moderators get their well deserved weekend.

*With closed i mean turning the forum in read-only mode in this context.
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« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2024 @101.50 »

flat out closing is further than what is really neccesary. it's up to the individual to moderate internet usage, not the owner of a forum. closing can also hurt discoverablility. if surfers of the web stumble upon the forum on a monday, they might just leave without revisiting any time soon. keeping the site read only still gives mods a breather while also still allowing the site to be discovered. first-time visitors probably won't make an account and post on the day they discover the site anyways.
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« Reply #70 on: November 02, 2024 @682.33 »

I like the forum closing but I also like the idea of having a read only mode so I propose a silly compromise:
you can access the read only mode by nicely asking Ozwomp :ozwomp: to let you in because you reeeally need to see something. he gives you access only for a limited amount of time, and when you're inside the theme is different like a closed luna park. the gifs don't move, the screen is dimmer, some decorations have been put away... after the time runs out Ozwomp takes you back to the entrance, and if you try to enter again he tells you he can't let it happen twice in the same day
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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2024 @133.88 »

As others mentioned, it seems like having a read-only forum once a week is a good compromise for everyone. It gives the mods a chance to step away for a day and not worry about new posts being created. There could still be the nifty closed page but maybe have a link on it to proceed to the forum if desired?

I like the forum being closed on Mondays for all the reasons people have mentioned- the charm, a reminder to take a break, giving a break to the moderators. I think the idea of it being read-only would, for me, take away from the "reminder to take a break" idea because a lot of my forum time is browsing anyways, and the break aspect involves stepping away from the internet's constant info overload if that makes sense. I really like the idea, if y'all do decide to switch to read-only, of still having a closed page with a link to continue. So there's my input!  :unite:
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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2024 @53.17 »

I like the forum closing but I also like the idea of having a read only mode so I propose a silly compromise:
you can access the read only mode by nicely asking Ozwomp :ozwomp: to let you in because you reeeally need to see something. he gives you access only for a limited amount of time, and when you're inside the theme is different like a closed luna park. the gifs don't move, the screen is dimmer, some decorations have been put away... after the time runs out Ozwomp takes you back to the entrance, and if you try to enter again he tells you he can't let it happen twice in the same day

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