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« on: June 01, 2022 @478.90 »

I just noticed my web revival page was being discussed on "Hacker News" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31552476

There are some interesting points made here! Definitely some misunderstanding about the nature of the web revival verses 90s aesthetics that perhaps I should clarify in my article more :ohdear: (We don't all want 90s aesthetics, thats just a style a lot of us use)

I think the thing they really miss though is that:
  • I don't think the web revival will ever be the ENTIRE internet, its just one small part of it.
  • These sites are not tryna solve any technical issues, its an artistic movement and the point is too have fun!

If you wanna give it a read though Id love to hear other peoples thoughts!
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2022 @526.22 »

In response to the first reply: Could very well be nostalgia, but I actually love the artsy mess of the 90s. I'm perfectly fine with a little inconvenience if it means I get something cool and different to look at!

I love going through Neocities webrings, and having no idea what I'm going to see next! I live for that exploration and unpredictability!

If you want the old web without that, Gemini, Gopher and Finger have you covered!
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2022 @741.05 »

I don't think the web revival will ever be the ENTIRE internet, its just one small part of it.

This is what I was thinking ever since I joined Neocities, future generations probably won't even consider making a site at all. Most people don't have a website and somehow getting them to ditch what they are currently using is unrealistic. Instead, we should allow people to keep using their services while introducing them to getting a website with a wide variety of webhosts and website makers, not just Neocities.
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2022 @877.59 »

This is what I was thinking ever since I joined Neocities, future generations probably won't even consider making a site at all. Most people don't have a website and somehow getting them to ditch what they are currently using is unrealistic.

I think that depends on how much Social Media gets regulated. I can see them eventually getting regulated to the point that they can't infinitely scroll or be algorithm-ed up the wazoo to keep people addicted.

If and when that happens, I think if Gemini is anything to go by, people won't be spending so much time on them and thus won't be the centre of the internet lives, and not their main stop. They might start building websites to use as their main place on the net, or the main place to express themselves.

I dunno how realistic that is on the web, but on Gemini, while "social media" exists (Geddit and Station come to mind as examples), they're only places to check in like once a day, and people are always linking to their own capsules and share any blog posts they make. Imagine that for the web!
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That's exactly how I found my way here. Lol!
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2023 @833.21 »

I just noticed my web revival page was being discussed on "Hacker News" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31552476

There are some interesting points made here! Definitely some misunderstanding about the nature of the web revival verses 90s aesthetics that perhaps I should clarify in my article more :ohdear: (We don't all want 90s aesthetics, thats just a style a lot of us use)

Unfortunately, the HN commentariat generally judges books by covers and reads whatever they want between selected lines. I prefer not to take them too seriously; most of them are basically College Republicans who majored in computer science and some of them have an unhealthy obsession with transgender programmers. That whole place just gives me the ick.

I think the thing they really miss though is that:
  • I don't think the web revival will ever be the ENTIRE internet, its just one small part of it.
  • These sites are not tryna solve any technical issues, its an artistic movement and the point is too have fun!

I think the real problem most of these HN types have with Web Revival is that it isn't something that can be monetized or used to make venture capitalists even richer. Little websites that people host at their own expense with money they earn from their day jobs can be dirt cheap to run unless they're huge or get lots and lots of traffic, so they don't need ads or subscriptions.

Also, it's OK if the web revival isn't the entire Internet. The world wide web itself isn't the entire internet, and doing everything over HTTP or HTTPS is a mistake, IMO, but one I can understand because ports 80 and 443 are generally open on every firewall, the TCP/IP stack only has 65,536 ports, many of them are already reserved, and getting reasonably cautious sysadmins to open a port for your app is an understandably hard sell.

Nevertheless, I think a lot of stuff doesn't need to be done over HTTPS. A lot of stuff doesn't need to be web apps at all.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2024 @215.76 »

You’re right; the web revival is just one small part of the whole internet scene. It’s not trying to solve any big technical issues; it’s really more of an artistic movement. It’s all about exploring different styles and enjoying the process!

I think it’s great that you’re inviting others to read and share their thoughts. Having these conversations can really help clear up any misunderstandings and show what the web revival is all about.

I will definitely hit that link up and read it sometime. Keep up the good work!
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