Improving the ability to make friends here in the web revival - a big proposal

[Memory]

Even if none of these ideas come to fruition, I think we should normalize sending people personal E-Mails or PMs via this forum, to chat.

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[NacreousDreams]

I personally would love to send and get PMs more! I think it's cool to pull up the forum and see I got a new message from someone, even if it's as small as a "how's it goin'?".

I agree about the MC server bit. I actually have hopped on the serv a couple times, and I was going to right now. Problem: MC is kickin' me to the curb right now! Keep getting bad login errors when I try to hop on, and it wasn't doing this yesterday. A dedicated communication service would already have its share of technical issues without considering the ones that arise from a whole game. :TnT:

[TheFrugalGamer]

that'd be nice. it's still bizarre to me to think that email is a super formal way of communicating, with unspoken rules on what you can and can't do.

personally, i'm all for cat gifs in my emails... :D

It's just one other thing that the corporate internet has ruined for everyone    first by associating it with work, and then by making it synonymous with spam!

Personally, when I get a genuine email from someone it always makes my day.

[dotmidi]

Even if none of these ideas come to fruition, I think we should normalize sending people personal E-Mails or PMs via this forum, to chat.

I wholeheartedly agree by this! I might make a button that's like "I'm comfortable with emails" or something of the sort to put on my MelonLand profile. I uh.. am very friendly, I do not bite if anyone wants to message me 

So far me and Commodorn have been messaging back and forth for awhile and i've also PM'd a few people on here that i like their sites!

As for the rest of the conversation, I need to build up the energy to begin to express my thoughts about a MelonLand chatroom (The good and the bad). I think ideally an IRC or something of the sort would be great, and something to do with 2-3 channels like debleb said in here too

[levya]

an IRC sounds cool though I probably wouldn't use it much. my social anxiety doesn't do too well with real-time chat haha

I do love receiving PMs or emails though! I just made this blinkie for my profile~

anyone else is free to use it, no credit necessary since I used blinkies.cafe to make it!

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I also made some profile banners for people to use! :)






And a badge:

[Melooon]

Iv been trying to find ANY viable way to connect forum accounts to Matrix or IRC and so far Im having no luck.. I just tried asking the Bing AI and this was literally its response 

I couldn’t find a direct answer to your question. However, you can use an IRC client that supports authentication via a web server. You can use a web server that supports Simple Machines Forum (SMF) authentication to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache or Nginx to authenticate users. You can use a web server such as Apache

I think the only way we can go forward with this is to not link forum accounts and make it a separate service; if that's the case Matrix is prob a better option! Its still possible to connect it in to MC and maybe the shoutbox (I think!) - Id like to know peoples opinions?

[Memory]

Id like to know peoples opinions?

I'm fine with that. :)

[debleb]

Iv been trying to find ANY viable way to connect forum accounts to Matrix or IRC and so far Im having no luck.. I just tried asking the Bing AI and this was literally its response 

I think the only way we can go forward with this is to not link forum accounts and make it a separate service; if that's the case Matrix is prob a better option! Its still possible to connect it in to MC and maybe the shoutbox (I think!) - Id like to know peoples opinions?

this sounds good to me!

[teatime]

Id like to know peoples opinions?

sounds good!

[Memory]

Although I have to say that perhaps the persistence of Matrix might make it less comfortable than an IRC - an IRC is on only when you're on, whereas in a persistent chat with chat history you kinda feel as if you have to stick to a conversation.

I just like the idea of coming into a chatroom and saying "hello" to see who's online! Whereas in persistent chats, saying hello usually isn't a thing, and chats proceed regardless of whether someone is online or not, which kinda kills the idea of a live conversation.

... But I'm not complaining about Matrix either, of course. An IRC would probably just be closer to the idea.

[Memory]

Although I have to say that perhaps the persistence of Matrix might make it less comfortable than an IRC - an IRC is on only when you're on, whereas in a persistent chat with chat history you kinda feel as if you have to stick to a conversation.

I just like the idea of coming into a chatroom and saying "hello" to see who's online! Whereas in persistent chats, saying hello usually isn't a thing, and chats proceed regardless of whether someone is online or not, which kinda kills the idea of a live conversation.

... But I'm not complaining about Matrix either, of course. An IRC would probably just be closer to the idea.

i agree with you on this. the more that i get sucked into discord, the more i realize that i don't really like persistent chats all that much. i like having them for PMs, and technical support/development/project chats definitely benefit from having a persistent, searchable chat history, but i'm not a big fan of them for general, casual chatrooms. because persistent chats are constantly ongoing and have the option to show you what you missed by scrolling back, they make me want to constantly catch up on what was being discussed - they're addicting, and not in a good way!

i also agree with your point about not being able to just pop in and say hi. because persistent chats are always persistent, conversations never have the ability to end. you never really get a chance to just say hi and have a quick chat with whoever else is online, because you'll always be interrupting whatever conversation was persisting in the chatroom before you joined.

i personally prefer the idea of having an IRC chatroom. XMPP isn't a bad option either if it has the ability to make non-persistent chatrooms, as it can offer some quality-of-life improvements over IRC (like file sharing), depending on what XEPs the server supports.

[Memory]

I think the last call is on @Melooon 's side, but I think an IRC is easier to host, less work to maintain, and definitely cheaper and easier on the hardware. Unless he has already begun working on Matrix, I think the tendency is clear for the reasons above.

[Inkerlink]

Id like to know peoples opinions?

I'd vote for an IRC over a Matrix as well. I don't think a chat history is necessary, unless it really helps with moderation. If it makes the lives of moderators easier, then I'd say go with Matrix.