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« on: August 11, 2023 @156.42 »

I know there's already a forum thread discussing modern YouTube, and old YouTube gets brought up a lot in that. But man. I just wanna have a place to talk more about the old YouTube. I miss it so much :(

What exactly is "old" Youtube? I'd say it's from 2007-2014 or so. Nearly 10 years ago now. Wow.

I started using YouTube WAAAY back in the day. Back in like 2008 or so. It was back then, and still is today, my #1 most used website of all time. I am just constantly on it, watching videos and listening to essays. But it has changed SO much in that time. As mentioned a lot in the Modern YouTube Culture thread, the culture around the site has changed, and definitely for the worst I feel.

Anyways, I thought I'd share some questions y'all can answer if ya want! Idk I just really wanna talk about the old days of YouTube and hear what you guys have to say! You don't have to answer all these questions, or any at all! I just thought it'd be a good jumping off point :P

If you are able to provide links to any of these videos I ask about I would LOVE to see it! :dive:  I may edit this in the future with more questions if they arise :eyes:

- What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
- What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
- What is your favorite old YouTube video?
- Any particularly fond memories?



Here are my answers!

Please note: I'm gonna be putting a broad epilepsy/eyestrain warning over all the videos I share. They often contain lots of flashing/rapidly changing neon lights and colors.

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
I cannot find it for the life of me, but I distinctly remember it being a Pokemon AMV to the song Waka Laka. This was right when gen 4 was getting released so a lot of the clips were from the Ruby + Sapphire anime! I distinctly remember the thumbnail being a Wobbuffet sliding down a rainbow(?) surrounded by Pikachu, a Pichu? And a bunch of other Pokemon.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
Definitely the early furry animation meme and Warrior Cats AMV scene. Back when everyone used MSPaint and Windows Movie Maker to animate, and if you used a program like Photoshop for the art or Sony Vegas Pro for editing, you were the king.

Some of my favorites from these two communities included The best burrito of her last 20 poopless minutes and Scourges Phenomenon.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?

Eevee Party 2. 100%. I genuinely re-watch this video ALL the time. The animation, while somewhat crude is still really well done. It's really fun to watch all the technicolored Eevees and Eeveelutions dancing and some even having their own little stories play out. It's also really funny because there are like hundreds of Eevees, a dozen Umbreons, and... one Vaporeon. IDK I just find that really funny :P Honestly I love this video so much, I am very tempted to make a shrine dedicated to it.

Though also, this was a flash animation first posted to DeviantArt, then later re-posted to YouTube. If we wanna stay strict to just native YouTube videos, It's probably Rocket chu Born Like This. I really miss this genre of old AMVs that are just compilations of stolen art set to edgy music. There's just something so sincere about it that the irony poisoned YouTube community today just doesn't have.

Any particularly fond memories?
I was introduced to the furry fandom through YouTube. That's kind of obvious considering the fact that I watched a bunch of furry animation memes, but I don't exactly consider that my true introduction. My real introduction to the furry fandom was this video, and the videos around it's construction. These videos opened my eyes to the fact that you can cosplay and actually make these sorts of animal and Pokemon costumes, which lead me down the rabbit hole of discovering the furry fandom properly.

Because of this, Leafeon is my favorite Eeveelution of all time and I honestly really cherish it.

Also yes, that is the "Foam Adventure" person. Loved that video as a kid :P
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2023 @213.54 »

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?

The Gummy Bear Song! That video is actually how I discovered Youtube itself. When I was about 7 years old, me and my sister were over at my aunt's house and we were just dicking around her pool. Out of nowhere, my cousin came running out of the house and said "YOU GUYS GOTTA COME OVER HERE AND SEE THIS!!!!!". We went inside and she showed us the video playing on a laptop and we collectively lost our minds as if it was the funniest thing in the goddamn world.

Lmao

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?

I used to watch so many videos of people making little movies with their littlest pet shops and webkinz dolls. I always wanted to make my own, but I always assumed using a camera was too complicated for my little baby brain to possibly understand, so I never bothered. I also loved those skits/music videos people would make in Club Penguin or Toontown.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR BREAKFAST, JOHNNY? MUFFINS!!!!!!

Me and my sisters still quote this godforsaken video to this day.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023 @525.15 »

personally, i'd divide youtube into three eras:

old youtube from its inception in 2005 to around 2009, before the vevo partnership. during this time, youtube was the most wild and chaotic, under-moderated. videos almost never got taken down, and you could post pretty much anything as long as you sufficiently flew under the radar. if your video disappeared from old youtube, it was because some narc reported it, and you can probably just re-upload it in a couple of days without issue.

this was also when moderation was pretty straightforward and it was essentially just "no porn, no uploading an entire fucking movie". short clips were generally okay.

golden youtube from 2009 to 2016/17-ish. "golden" not because i personally think it was the best time to be using the site, but because it was the best era to Be A Youtuber, which was now a thing that one could be. it was the time when youtube was a maker of money for the people uploading to it, and the corporations it partnered with. youtube itself was losing comical amounts of money, but whatever, google could eat that cost like it was nothing.

these are the days of your favourite let's plays (mostly unedited safe perhaps cutting out a ton of tedium or adding a facecam), of ambitious animations and indie films and creative projects. they're also the days of copyright strikes, DMCAs, and general corporate kowtowing, especially as the era progressed.

in my opinion, i'd say this golden era was already well into its decline by about mid 2016, but the introduction of the polymer redesign in 2017 is a useful temporal landmark for most people, and it was also the time a lot of folk reduced their youtube usage, either as viewers or as uploaders.

polymer era from 2017's introduction of the polymer redesign to now. again, partly just a convenient marker, but also coincides with the end of that golden era of creativity. this is when the copyright strikes started getting really bad, not just for things that make some amount of sense but for increasingly nonsensical shit, up to and including videos that contain absolutely nothing owned by the company sending the strike. automatic audio and video recognition is in frequent use, and is terrible, and uploaders can lose their entire account because youtube doesn't care to investigate these automated mistakes.

your favourite youtuber has gotten increasingly more corporate. they don't swear, they use juvenile language, they avoid saying certain harmless words to such a point that it's uncomfortably obvious that they are avoiding those words. their videos are so over-edited that they're exhausting and irritating to watch, reminding you of those times you discover an american gameshow on telly and turn it off after two minutes because it feels like a parody of itself. annoying sponsorships interrupt videos, necessitating the use of sponsorblock, which doesn't work half the time because a real viewer has to submit the sections to block.

community-contributed subtitles are gone, and thus deaf and HoH viewers are clustered around the few uploaders who now add subtitles manually, or pay others to do so. automatic subtitles are so bad it's often better to watch a video without them.

the golden era is over. making money from youtube is harder and requires compromising one's own personality and creativity. youtube has finally decided it wants to make money from you, and so far it still isn't, but it's determined.

so, personally i'd say "old youtube" does not extend into 2014, and my answers to these questions reflect that.

- What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
i can't be certain exactly, but the first youtube video i remember watching was a spirited away AMV to some intolerable pop song. i'm pretty certain i'd watched videos on youtube before this, but it's the earliest one i remember seeing. i'd say this was 2006. while this video was not my introduction to youtube, it was my introduction to anime.

the video was linked to in a chatroom i frequented (remember when every forum had its own javascript chatroom all running from the exact same plugin with the exact same notification beeps?) and the discussion around it confused me at the time. someone said "i think anime is beautiful". i remember exactly who it was and i remember this precise line. at the time, i assumed "anime" and "AMV" were synonymous, that perhaps one was a typo or bastardisation of the other. i held this assumption for some months until discovering the anime channel on satellite tv, running from midnight until four in the morning, and finally learned that anime was its own thing.

through this channel, i discovered the western benchmark for anime: cowboy bebop, bleach, naruto, fullmetal alchemist...and wolf's rain. no-one seems to remember wolf's rain. of those listed, it is by far my favourite anime.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
on old youtube specifically? sorry, none. not even on youtube overall, across any era. the only thing about youtube i can say i truly miss comes down to a specific youtuber i used to watch a lot, and who still uploads but in the tiresomely corporate way. i miss his golden-era-style videos, when it was just a facecam and a game and subtitles i could read and he would forget to edit out a pee break because he edited his videos that little. and that's not even nostalgia, it's a different kind of sadness.

my youtube-related nostalgia all comes down to stuff that wasn't actually on youtube. the people i talked to about certain videos, the sharing of links, the discovery of certain musicians i am still very fond of.

in which case, there is something i miss: wingedzephyr

her channel now is just a few videos of live sessions, and she's left youtube entirely.

back in the day, wingedzephyr had every single one of emilie autumn's songs uploaded, with meticulously-timed lyrics in a pretty, gothic font that was still quite readable. the background-image of each video was carefully chosen from emilie autumn's many press photos and model shots to best match the theme of the song.

as lyric videos go, wingedzephyr's were one of the best in general. they were also the only ones available for this particular musician, and in fact were typically the only videos on youtube of her songs at all.

it was through wingedzephyr's videos that i and a friend discovered emilie autumn together. it was through her videos that i continued to introduce others to emilie autumn. they were the single most convenient way of sharing music. i maintain that youtube still is the most convenient way of sharing music, if you're lucky enough to find a non-vevo video uploaded in 2011 that's just the audio and nothing else.

about four years ago, youtube sent a ton of automatic copyright strikes to wingedzephyr, and all the lyric videos disappeared.

emilie autumn herself has been aware of wingedzephyr's videos for a long time. she has always approved of them, knowing that they're one of the primary ways new listeners discover her. this attitude hasn't changed. neither she nor her record label sent the strikes. it was done by an entirely automatic system that had her entire discography on file and discovered that these videos matched it.

emilie autumn herself, copyright holder of the audio in these videos, had no power to stop or reverse the copyright strikes concerning her own music.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?
i don't know if i have one. if i do, or did, i can't remember it and certainly wouldn't be able to find it now.

Any particularly fond memories?
remember that chatroom i mentioned in which AMVs and anime were discussed side-by-side and i believed them the same?

i'm fairly certain that chatroom was how i discovered youtube.

this was way before browsers had tabs, when netscape was still a valid browser but IE had become default for windows users because it came with the OS.

there was at least one user in the chatroom who used it to open new browser windows. they would send a message containing nothing but a link and then click that link in their own message to open a new window. at the time, i didn't question it, but now i wonder why they found that easier than just clicking the link wherever they had originally found it. browser bookmarks at the time could be very easily opened in a new window, so what the fuck were they doing?

anyway.

through their novel behaviour, i discovered youtube. discovered whatever random videos they wanted to open in a new window, which were usually songs (AMV sometimes, but not always, included) that they could listen to while they browsed. fairly standard pop songs, nothing adventurous, but still it was how i found the site. at the time, the recommendations system wasn't perfectly fine-tuned for turning you into a neo-nazi as it is today, and actually was barely tuned at all and seemed pretty random.

random-ish recommendations suited me fine, as it's how i discovered a lot of interesting things, new (to me) music, the most bizarre and incoherent youtube poops, anything.

and because of this one user for whom the chatroom was apparently the only way to open new browser windows, chat often turned to discussing whatever they had linked, and recommendations found, and a strange culture formed around this user's behaviour which we all just accepted as normal. it also therefore caused us to dump whatever interesting youtube videos we found in the chat, spawning more incoherent recommendation finds.

like i said, i don't really have any nostalgia for youtube itself, but i do have nostalgia for that chatroom.

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2023 @582.22 »

I could talk for DAYS about old Youtube!!! I hold so much nostalgia for my younger days on the platform...  :dive:

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
I could not tell you :D I can remember some of the firsts, but not the first... Probably something like SMOSH or RWJ! Despite many flaws, I miss when YouTube was just people in their rooms being funny!

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
I don't know what to call it, but do you remember all those "XYZ on crack" videos? In particular, the Kingdom Hearts On Crack series of videos were by far my favourite! I guess like youtube poops is the best descriptor! The humour is a bit outdated for sure but I used to watch them religiously as a kid with my friends!

What is your favorite old YouTube video?
Batman on Drugs:The Remake. Why? Couldn't tell ya. Me and my brother found it when we were really young and could not stop laughing at it! It's so silly it still makes me smile :D

Any particularly fond memories?
The absolute freedom in terms of content. No monetisation allowed for greater creative freedom, and allowed people to just create what they wanted and not what the algorithm dictated. Sure some of these folks still exist to this day, but I don't feel like this approach represents the platform as a whole now.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2023 @725.14 »

oh man I remember watching YouTube videos all the way in 2005 so I've been there from the beginning haha

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
no idea what my very first one is, some early ones I remember are badgers song and charlie the unicorn. I used to watch A LOT of silly music videos and parodies and stuff.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
early YogsCast! I started watching them in 2011 and it was the first time I ever watched let's plays, so it really introduced me to a lot of gaming youtubers (some of which I still watch). those videos also gave me a fondness for really early minecraft haha

What is your favorite old YouTube video?
probably this final fantasy iv song parody!

Any particularly fond memories?
in my middle school comic book club my friends and I used to watch silly youtube videos on the classroom computers, and that's probably how I discovered a lot of old videos :3
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2023 @857.45 »

Aah old YT thread!!

I watch SOOOOO MANY videos, it's surprisingly a difficult topic for me  :defrag:

- What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
Oh no, honestly I have no idea. It could be either a YouTube Poop video or some old meme/song, which could be Leek Spin or the Holly Dolly version Holly Dolly "Dolly Song" ( Ieva's polka ) though I'm probably making that up as I'm not sure.
EDIT: I think I remember what video it was!! It was this: Tokio Hotel - Der Letzte Tag I remember there was a personal blog craze back then and somehow I stumbled upon a person who loved Tokio Hotel and they had this video linked there. While I'm not a fan of TH, I am kind of fond of this particular music video  :cheesy:

- What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
Definitely the old school Youtube Poop with the CDI game characters XD I watched those religiously back in 2006-2009. I especially loved when people started to make their own animations and even games, there's one guy which I loved a lot, but unfortunately he privated most of his videos back in 2009/2010: CraaazyCat13's channel

The other niche was the Flash Touhou music videos, there was this band called IOSYS, not sure if they still make music, but they were the most popular ones. They had a lot of remixes of Touhou OST
Classic example: Marisa Stole the Precious Thing - I think this one's a reupload as I can't find the original video.

There's also a third weird thing also connected to Touhou which I will not link to, but it was the Ronald McDonald Ran ran ruu remixes of Touhou songs XD They were getting crazier and crazier each time.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?
I think it will be this one. It kind of inspired me to do draw again as I stopped drawing at some point as a kid. I really like the art style and animation here.
Hatsune Miku Triple Baka (HQ)
From the funny ones I am very fond of CraaaazyCat13's BOMBZ video, where for a meme dude made a whole mod to a game.

Any particularly fond memories?
While I'm not sure if it's a fond memory, but thanks to Youtube videos I actually learned English I know today. I'm not kidding haha!

I also learned about Touhou games which I still love to this day.

Aand probably YT inspired me to draw again.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2023 @891.57 »

Personally, I don't have that much of a history with YouTube as a subculture. The only thing I watched regularly and obsessed over were Let's Plays or other gaming videos from my favorite YouTubers, nothing else. No YTP, no fail compilations, no viral videos, nothing. Only gaming videos.

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?
I am sure it was nothing special or particularly remarkable. Maybe some animal video for school.
My active YouTube watching "journey" began with watching the legendary Minecraft Let's Play videos by German YouTuber Gronkh. He has over 1000 episodes of that single series alone and he is (was) the number one most well known YouTube personality in Germany. I watched them on my sliding Nokia phone way back when it was actively going on, which in retrospect makes me feel like part of a really cool club. :]

I am pretty sure I looked up videos of people playing New Super Mario Bros. Wii at some point when that was pretty new and I REALLY wanted to play that, and discovered a German YouTuber called Domtendo.

I kept watching those two, and later some other German gaming YouTubers: Zombey, Maudado, aboutminecraft, LordPeterLP, Kedos, and some others. Minecraft song parodies, mod reviews, Nintendo game playthroughs, various YouTuber's side projects.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
I wasn't in any. I thought most of them were dumb.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?
Don't have any that would qualify as "old YouTube", since I didn't watch that typical kind of content.

Any particularly fond memories?
As mentioned above.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2023 @904.46 »

Oh wow a lot to respond to here!! I typically struggle to respond to a lot of things at once BUT I did read everyone here's responses! :D

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?

The Gummy Bear Song! That video is actually how I discovered Youtube itself. When I was about 7 years old, me and my sister were over at my aunt's house and we were just dicking around her pool. Out of nowhere, my cousin came running out of the house and said "YOU GUYS GOTTA COME OVER HERE AND SEE THIS!!!!!". We went inside and she showed us the video playing on a laptop and we collectively lost our minds as if it was the funniest thing in the goddamn world.

OMGGG HOW COULD I FORGET THE GUMMY BEAR SONG??? it is ICONIC.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR BREAKFAST, JOHNNY? MUFFINS!!!!!!

Me and my sisters still quote this godforsaken video to this day.

YES I remember this video! I LOVE the Shoes video too. LiamKyleSullivan honestly was just iconic as hell back then.

and because of this one user for whom the chatroom was apparently the only way to open new browser windows, chat often turned to discussing whatever they had linked, and recommendations found, and a strange culture formed around this user's behaviour which we all just accepted as normal. it also therefore caused us to dump whatever interesting youtube videos we found in the chat, spawning more incoherent recommendation finds.

Oh that's super interesting!! I am always interested in how little micro-cultures like that develop in online communities.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
I don't know what to call it, but do you remember all those "XYZ on crack" videos? In particular, the Kingdom Hearts On Crack series of videos were by far my favourite! I guess like youtube poops is the best descriptor! The humour is a bit outdated for sure but I used to watch them religiously as a kid with my friends!

OH MY GOD I REMEMBER THESE VIDEOS!! you just unlocked such memories for me XD

Any particularly fond memories?
The absolute freedom in terms of content. No monetisation allowed for greater creative freedom, and allowed people to just create what they wanted and not what the algorithm dictated. Sure some of these folks still exist to this day, but I don't feel like this approach represents the platform as a whole now.

MAN. same here. Everything is so clean and sanitized now for the algorithm with such a high production standard that it's just. difficult to find smaller creators with that freedom, yknow?

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
early YogsCast! I started watching them in 2011 and it was the first time I ever watched let's plays, so it really introduced me to a lot of gaming youtubers (some of which I still watch). those videos also gave me a fondness for really early minecraft haha

OMG EARLY YOGSCAST YES!!! Literally the guys that introduced me to minecraft way back in the day with their first mc lp!! God, i gotta go back and rewatch those videos sometime. I remember watching the Jaffacake factory series as it was coming out. Their mod showcases too!

- What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?
Definitely the old school Youtube Poop with the CDI game characters XD I watched those religiously back in 2006-2009. I especially loved when people started to make their own animations and even games, there's one guy which I loved a lot, but unfortunately he privated most of his videos back in 2009/2010: CraaazyCat13's channel

YES I LOVE these youtube poops!! I didn't mention them in my original post because I was mainly focusing on the animation meme/furry community, but this era of YTPs were PROMINENT in my childhood! There's this one where the king said something like "I'm going to have a fish sandwich" with a filet-o-fish edited in his hand that my sister and I lost our minds at, and still quote occasionally to this day. I cannot find the YTP for the life of me though! Really wish I could. I wanna hit my sister with that nostalgia beam :P
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2023 @98.85 »

Oh btw! Just thought I'd share. IDK how many of y'all know about this site, but there's a site called BitView that looks to emulate the look and functionality of the old youtube. Even including page customization! :D A LOT of what's on that site rn is basically reposts from YouTube and various flash animations, but there's some original content on there that I think is worth checking out!
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2023 @364.64 »

This is a really good thread idea! I find this topic fascinating and have spent considerable time yearning for and reminiscing over early YouTube, I am extremely nostalgic for it, especially YouTube in 2010-2012. It's surreal to think how my time spent watching videos on YouTube has constituted a significant portion of my entire lifespan. Like possibly as much as 2% of my entire time alive has been spent watching YouTube videos. I have been using YouTube almost every day of my life since 2008. I was 10 years old in 2008.

What was the first YouTube video you ever watched?

I don't know if I can pinpoint the very first video I ever watched on YouTube but I might have an idea of what it was - it was quite possibly "Mario: Game Over" by POYKPAC. I can't remember how I found this video, but I remember thinking it was so cool because I loved anything and everything Mario as a child. I was obsessed with Nintendo growing up.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?

YouTube Poop, hands down. Been watching them since 2010. I don't really keep up with them much nowadays but watching YouTube Poops have given me some of the most laughs. I loved exploring all the different YTPs and discovering all kinds of different creators. Some YTPs go above and beyond and are simply incredible with the complex visual effects. I loved YTPs from people like LinkOnDrugs, AwfulFawful, BarneyIsPerverted, Avojaifnot, SporeDotCam, and more.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?

There's so many to choose from! Probably this (Epilepsy warning!)

Any particularly fond memories?

I have fond memories of growing up watching specific YouTubers. I was subscribed to them and I remember how happy I was whenever I'd see a new video drop from one of these people. I could be having a miserable day, and I'd come home from school and see a new video up and it would make my day. ^^ In particular, I used to obsessively watch Kitty0706 (RIP), UberHaxorNova, Jogwheel, Wafflepwn, Angry Grandpa (RIP), and The Angry Video Game Nerd. Some of these people are still around making videos... but a lot of them are now a shell of their former selves.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2023 @603.58 »

I remember hearing about YouTube at school, but mishearing it as "YouToo" and never being able to find it, like that delayed me from watching it for maybe a year, haha.

What was the first YouTube video you've watched?

No idea what the first was, but a few things stand out in my mind as some of the earliest. The "Super Mario 64 Bloopers" videos, the Super Mario Bros Z series, there was this one kid who made videos using a bunch of pokemon plushes (I remember watching those on my Wii, ha). There was this era before there were really any proper "YouTubers", before I was following any person in particular, which was a different sort of vibe.

What niche/community are you the most fond of/nostalgic for?

A specific group of let's players: Chuggaaconroy, lucahjin, AttackingTucans, JoshJepson. Just the old practice of playing through a game with someone else always felt nice. I will say that there's a lot of mourning of old Youtube, but Chuggaaconroy is still making videos in the exact same style, which is nice. Like, I still check back in now and again, might watch a series as a whim. For years, whenever I was playing a game myself, I'd have a let's play playing in the background at the same time, there was something cozy (but sooo parasocial lol) about playing along with someone.

What is your favorite old YouTube video?

Mmm hard question! There's this 2012 YTP, Yugi's Undying Love for Portable Consoles that my friends still constantly reference, so I'll say that for now.

Any particularly fond memories?

I remember I'd go over my friend's house and we'd just watch YouTube videos together on his dad's computer for hours. I also recall one of my friends had a "Club Penguin" focused Youtube channel with videos like "ROCKHOPPER REAL SPOTTED ON THE ICEBERG" or whatever. I remember when Charlie the Unicorn was popular, me and my friends all memorized the songs and would sing them together constantly.
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