anime for girls/queer folks

[Memory]

dunno how else to title this.

there's a reason i've only liked older anime, manga, doujin etc and a very specific kind too - it's the art style.
most modern (and lots of shounen/seinen) anime have a kinda art style that i really don't feel comfortable with.
that's why i loved old-school Vocaloid and Touhou, anime like Lucky Star, and genres like shoujo - because they just feel waayyy more comfortable for me. i also wanna watch Kirby Right Back At Ya! and the Animal Crossing anime (movie?) at some points, but mostly just want some shoujo for starters.
even Toradora! only there for the romance and pretty scenery; K-on! for how relatable it felt, etc.

are there any webrings, communities, fanlistings or etc for me? Pokemon seems to be the only one now!
i just wanna vibe.

especially my autism picks out characters purely if i relate to them or feel on a weird level, usually it's more like a cousin or schoolmate or something, like Roxanne from Pokemon or Yukari from Touhou. and all the things i've saved (if they're characters) are just dumb gags or older funny things.
it's amazing if it's cute or more focused on the vibe.

[cult_status18]

uhhhhhh.....B stars thats it the rest are all stupid and a waste of my time but to be more clear and less negative yes they draw them with such a wide chest and its very weird and gross sometimes and the way that anime is organized is very restrictive and gender based and that makes it really hard to just make normal cartoons I think you would be hard pressed to find an anime that shownen that doesn't have at least one female character with fan service

B stars is animated in CGI which is different from most anime and it also suffers less from unrealistic portrayals of women because they are all human animal hybrids the story is great and has tons of social commentary and some the characheters are very queer coded there's isn't really any fan services at least not any that I know of but the fans base is very freaky you should be wary of them

I FUCKING LOVE B STARS SO MUCH

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uhhhhhh.....B stars thats it the rest are all stupid and a waste of my time but to be more clear and less negative yes they draw them with such a wide chest and its very weird and gross sometimes and the way that anime is organized is very restrictive and gender based and that makes it really hard to just make normal cartoons I think you would be hard pressed to find an anime that shownen that doesn't have at least one female character with fan service

B stars is animated in CGI which is different from most anime and it also suffers less from unrealistic portrayals of women because they are all human animal hybrids the story is great and has tons of social commentary and some the characheters are very queer coded there's isn't really any fan services at least not any that I know of but the fans base is very freaky you should be wary of them

I FUCKING LOVE B STARS SO MUCH

oh yeah pretty much this exactly.
there used to be a hell of a lot more shoujo, and old-school Vocaloid and Touhou used to be very comfortable for me. especially with how relatable the characters were, a lot of Touhou fan manga was more focused on the action & story rather than showey, etc. i loved that. now i simply can't go anywhere near a Touhou fan thing, and Vocaloid is either Project SEKAI or it's gross.

yea fanservice is extremeelyyyy common now, though i do remember shoujo used to be a thing at least. more focused on cute, character designs were... more normal? like a woman at best would've maybe looked like someone on Tumblr in 2014 or something, not fanservicey.
i keep bringing up the two (three?) doujin things since those are the only ones i really have. outside of Pokemon (which to be fair has its teeny bits but it's far more focused on action and story) there's absolutely nothing these days.

B Sides looks interesting though!

[cult_status18]

b Stars was written by a woman and she actually named the bunny girl after herself [I think] I could rant all day about the characters and why I like it so much but that would be annoying to you you should really just give it a watch its really great part 2 of the final season should be coming out soon so don't miss out

Yes I hate fan service so much, exactly why I don't watch anime anymore besides Bstars anyways I guess lain was good too but not in the way that was good to women or queer ppl specifically my sister is a big fan actually so mabey that's another good one I just like Bstars since its so gay sometimes and I admit that I do find the characters really cute more spasificly tho I really like this character he's super pretty and in the manga he makes friends with the bear guy and its really fucking cute oh my god

aprently ppl don't like pina, but I think he's cool

I have zero Idea why that's so big but its really cool that it did that I think its bc of the file type idk

[Memory]

b Stars was written by a woman and she actually named the bunny girl after herself [I think] I could rant all day about the characters and why I like it so much but that would be annoying to you you should really just give it a watch its really great part 2 of the final season should be coming out soon so don't miss out

Yes I hate fan service so much, exactly why I don't watch anime anymore besides Bstars anyways I guess lain was good too but not in the way that was good to women or queer ppl specifically my sister is a big fan actually so mabey that's another good one I just like Bstars since its so gay sometimes and I admit that I do find the characters really cute more spasificly tho I really like this character he's super pretty and in the manga he makes friends with the bear guy and its really fucking cute oh my god

aprently ppl don't like pina, but I think he's cool

I have zero Idea why that's so big but its really cool that it did that I think its bc of the file type idk

oh yeah exactly most anime these days (if not all of them, i think?) have at least some form of fanservice, it's absolutely nuts. even women who make fem characters - still mildly fanservicey, maybe since it's normalised now? eeh.
Kemono Friends was good though, at least part of it - it's first season is from 2017 and the second season is from 2018 or 2019, but it's worse than the first. i used to have a hyperfixation on it!

i think aside from that i'll probably continue to ask and search for good stuff, especially since i feel like a single being in a world full of anything but. my VRoid avatar isn't big chest she's just... well, me. not tropey, literally just a kemono (hybrid) foxgirl, but that's me in general - i take it as part of the flesh human through therian spectrum, it's closer to normal humans but between furries and humans imo. and i can def understand why so many people feel uncomfortable by it even if it's used in good faith - all anime and doujin today are uncomfortable at best and it's always so fanservicey. even in VRchat and VTubing it's impossible to get away from.

also thank you!! i'll probably watch B-Sides sometime i think.

edit: i think Bocchi the Rock was okay, it wasn't amazing but i think it was alright. but i don't remember clealy much anime from before this year - most probably had fanservice but i was too oblivious to notice lmao
thinking B Sides and PreCure would be okay though!

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There are a lot of anime for girls and queer folk. Lots of anime have heavy queer themes and manga is full of yaoi and yuri.
I dont watch seasonal anime. Theres usually only a couple standout shows each season as it is.
I just watch older stuff and whatever looks truly outstanding.
If you are interested in diving into the deep end of old gay shoujo anime instead of something more recent then I reccommend Rvolutionary Girl Utena.

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There are a lot of anime for girls and queer folk. Lots of anime have heavy queer themes and manga is full of yaoi and yuri.
I dont watch seasonal anime. Theres usually only a couple standout shows each season as it is.
I just watch older stuff and whatever looks truly outstanding.
If you are interested in diving into the deep end of old gay shoujo anime instead of something more recent then I reccommend Rvolutionary Girl Utena.

Unfortunately, the person who originally made this post has recently deleted their account so I don't think they will get a notification about your reply, but IDK mabey they will look over their old posts. I would have no way of knowing

I was going to say I hate yaoi because it's primarily written by straight women and I've seen people criticize it as not being super accurate but then I thought about B-stars and I remember that was a lady that wrote it and I really love that anime and its the only anime I watch so there's that but what I've heard people consider to be yaoi is usually sexual or just suggestive stuff and B-stars has none of that in it (all the characters are queer coded there are only 2 characters that are actually gay) so mabey its not yaoi? idk I'm not very sure about it all when it comes to anime, all I know is that the vast majority of it is male-centered and it's kinda not fun to me ( I Dont like the fanservice and weird romance with women) and all the serious anime I've seen my sister watch just doesn't touch on queerness or fanservice so its fine for me to watch but not for trying to feel represented or anything

I enjoy things that are generally queer so I could definitely give that anime a watch but I would definitely enjoy an anime written by a gay man a lot more If I Could find anything close to what American queer media has made me feel in anime then I would really enjoy that

[sicktick2]

I was going to say I hate yaoi because it's primarily written by straight women and I've seen people criticize it as not being super accurate

This is a misconception. Yaoi as a genre was actually started by lesbians. Its not "accurate" per se but neither is most romance manga straight or otherwise. I have read some incredibly relatable yaoi though.

The director of Revolutionary Girl Utena ,Kunihiko Ikuhara(Who has never publicly stated his orientation but is very gay),  also directed Sarazanmai which is quite gay.

[cult_status18]

This is a misconception. Yaoi as a genre was actually started by lesbians. Its not "accurate" per se but neither is most romance manga straight or otherwise. I have read some incredibly relatable yaoi though.

The director of Revolutionary Girl Utena ,Kunihiko Ikuhara(Who has never publicly stated his orientation but is very gay),  also directed Sarazanmai which is quite gay.

ahh ok yeah, so internet discourse ruined some terminology from old animation in a foreign country, good to know, and sorry for sounding ignorant, I had no idea, and yeah, I guess most romance stories aren't really accurate, but that's ok Im just reminded about that weird comic that one person made about three gay guys (a bear twink and emo) all in a polyamours realashonship she was a straight lady and she butchered it pretty badly given that she chose three different kinds of gay men and wrote them as being poly I know that was a while ago and that was done by an American comic artist but I still think about it sometimes

There's nothing wrong with what she wrote, it's just a waste of my time because it serves the view of gay men, that she has it's not my view of my sexuality as an actual gay man, I just try to be wary of writing like that that's all   

ill make sure to look out for anything "Utena Kunihiko Ikuhara" has made since he sounds like a person that writes queer stories to escape his environment that may not be very nice for him to be queer in

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ill make sure to look out for anything "Utena Kunihiko Ikuhara" has made since he sounds like a person that writes queer stories to escape his environment that may not be very nice for him to be queer in

I mean, I don't know that it makes sense to act like a queer artist from Japan is writing as a form of escapism any more than an artist from, say, the US. It's not great to be queer here, either. And while Revolutionary Girl Utena is about queerness, it's also pretty specifically about misogyny, abuse, the way traditional family structures enable misogyny and abuse, and how those things impact lesbians in particular. It isn't an autobiographical piece by any means. It's a deeply feminist work created by a man, and an incredibly lesbian work created by a man. The woman who wrote the manga (adapted from Ikuhara's anime, not the other way around) actually censored a lot of the queer themes and deconstruction of the idea of chivalry, from what I've heard. Revolutionary Girl Utena is a great example of a work that does not need to be autobiographical in order to have a lot of significance and depth; Ikuhara did not have to write completely from his own life in order to create good art.

I was also going to recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena on this thread, so I'm happy someone else had the same idea, but I would feel bad letting it be recommended simply as a shojou magical girl anime without mentioning that it contains a lot of intense stuff and warning someone about likely triggers is necessary. It's a show that is dealing with abuse, especially sexual abuse of minors, and especially incestuous abuse. It's a very surreal show with a lot of allegory and dream-like imagery, but as the show goes on, it does get more explicit and more literal about the abuse specifically. Is Utena a magical girl? Yes. Does Utena have a love interest? Yes. Is recommending it as "a lesbian magical girl show" a very accurate depiction of the tone? Not at all. I highly recommend it to literally everyone ever but if there's even the potential for you to be triggered by grooming, sexual violence, domestic abuse, or incest, you absolutely should look up trigger warnings first. There are a lot of them.

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you absolutely should look up trigger warnings first. There are a lot of them.

Oh wow yeah it's really good you cleared that up that's not what I thought I was going to be be watching (⁠T⁠T⁠)

I'm definitely fine with it having heavier themes but I had no idea that it was going to have any so I might have been disappointed by that especially if it gets worse as it goes on personally I've watched a lot of shows that cover very heavy topics but I've definitely never dived into anything queer that covers very heavy topics but if it's anything like what I've seen from things about IRL stuff like documentaries and YouTube videos then I definitely might feel bad but I'm not sure I would get triggered I'm pretty used to seeing triggering things in media but it does bum me out sometimes so it's really good to know that I definitely would have watched all at once if I didn't know and then I probably wouldn't have liked it

I'm definitely still going to watch it but I was looking for anime that was maybe more like B-stars like something that can still be serious and touch on important topics but at the same time can still have a lot of creative B plots that can be separate from the main story and even B plots and side characters that can just get explored in ways that are also very positive and fun

I also really hate it when their is unesicary sexual assault scenes like for example (this is a live action American TV show but I promise it's relevant) in the first season of snow fall their is this whole thing where someone gets sexually assaulted and both the characters were written out of the show shortly after that and the writers never really did anything with it yet they still felt like writing it in the show even when they knew they didn't have anything significant to say by adding it so I basically watched something really bad happen with no explanation or meaning escribed to it it was purely there to disturb the viewer's so that the writers could separate the show from other crime shows by making it look way more real and serious that's really spineless and I really hope that's not what I I'm going to watch like it shouldn't be just bad people do bad things there should actually be a meaning and propose to it in the story besides making a bad character worse or trying to write in an obstacle for the main character

I would also just prefer to watch something more positive and not something that's going to bum me out and make me feel bad like at least something where there are two male characters in healthy romantic relationship with eachother that's honestly all I need to see