Is it time to replace the term Web Revival??

[Melooon]

The answer is probably not, BUT I have a good reason for making this thread!

Words and names are very powerful, they define boundaries and group together ideas - they gain meaning and identity.

I didn't coin the term web revival, but back in 2021 I started heavily pushing it; back then there were a bunch of terms people were using. However over the last 6 months, I've noticed a change; everyone is saying web revival - we have been reduced to one name - and simply put, one name is not enough to quantify all of the people and ideas that should be included in this weird web crafting space!

So my challenge for you is; to make more names! Make better names! Challenge identity! The web revival can survive some rival editions, in fact, it needs them. We deserve more than one name 

[Commodorn]

I've never been very fond of the term Web Revival myself (probably made obvious by my frequent use of "This part of the web"), so I would be very glad to provide a few alternatives for everybody- -

Little Web
Sounds like a street that'd have a lot of cute mom & pop shops. Small Web is an alternative.

Internet Underground
(Cool people only)

Neo-net
Like.. new net?..

Wild Web
Yeah.

[pinkvampyr]

I think small web/net has been used/is still in use to some degree, I know I see the term on the smol.pub website. personally I've always liked indie web.

but I don't know, I think web revival is a perfectly good term to describe it as a movement you know?

[shevek]

I don't think I would replace it, however brainstorming terms is really fun and I like the ones people have come up with so far
I also thought of "web reclamation". Reclaiming what was yours sounds fun and powerful. Reclamation also makes me think of the practice of reclaiming slurs. Taking something that was used against you and taking the power away from it, and using it for better things instead. It's thought provoking to envision the web this way. Like to what degree the web was ours before specific companies took over? Was it ever ours? Or thinking about how their services can be.. quite a disservice, or used against us, but we can make something good with it

[deuil]

the art historian in me kind of wants to say "post social media" internet. because the "techniques" (small websites, webrings) and mindset used are pre-social media, BUT historically speaking, we're no longer in those early internet days. the movement wouldn't have been a movement at all in early internet, since there wasn't anything else but that ; the current internet as it is now is the motivation behind the movement

i do like the term web revival though.

[Memory]

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[bingus_baby]

Neo-net
Like.. new net?..

Wild Web
Yeah.

Neo-Net is good, but it's being used by a somewhat popular Discord by Dokodemo, it's not like that server can coin a term, but bc of that it doesn't get my vote.
But the Wild Web? I LOVE that one, bc I don't like the current focus on revivals and "returning to tradition". As much as I passionately drool over Geocities aesthetics, not everyone does! So terms like "web revival" narrow the scope of the community. I think for an umbrella term, Wild Web captures all the aspects of rebellion, tradition, and other punk rock values that many webmasters in this community hold. And even the lack thereof if someone wants to make a goofy website for the hell of it, since this community seems to be about freedom and creativity above all else. For more niche subgenera, I would think more specific labels would be in order, which is where something like "web revival" might come in handy to describe sites with a focus on reliving the glory days, or reviving aspects of that time.

TLDR:
+1 for Wild Web

[arcus]

Indie Web is descriptive and straight forward, for describing sites as is. It applies to any non-corporate site, regardless of the site's goals.

Web Revival doesn't need replacing, but it's poorly defined. It's not a label for websites, but an anti-capitalist social movement involving websites.

If we're to make a new term for a new movement, then it will need to have a solid definition.

[Memory]

Internet Underground

I like this one the most. We're part of the Internet as a whole, but we're mainly known in small and obscure circles. Also something about "Internet Underground" has a ring to it compared to other names.

[wygolvillage]

I like Indie-Web or Underground Web but Wild Web I think captures the really fun and expressive vibe  of Web Revival like nothing else... So Wild Web might be my new favorite, even if Indie Web or Web Revival feel more self explanatory/convenient...

[TheFrugalGamer]

Hm, yeah I like Indie Web and Internet Underground myself, but I think ideally there should be a variety of terms that people adopt depending on what they're trying to do with their internet presence, just like we do with music genres and art styles. Here are some that would make sense to me:

Punkweb - zine makers, anarchists, anti-capitalists and anti-corporatists
Artweb - independent artists and people who create websites as art experiments
Geoweb - As in Geocities, sites dedicated specifically to that type of nostalgia, 90's style websites

[debleb]

I've never been very fond of the term Web Revival myself (probably made obvious by my frequent use of "This part of the web"), so I would be very glad to provide a few alternatives for everybody- -

Little Web
Sounds like a street that'd have a lot of cute mom & pop shops. Small Web is an alternative.

Internet Underground
(Cool people only)

Neo-net
Like.. new net?..

Wild Web
Yeah.

i love wild web! i think it encompasses what this movement really is to me better than most other terms i see AND it makes me feel like a cowboy!

[Melooon]

Wild Web

I have updated the web category name on the forum in honour of this name

[drakonic]

While the "Indie Web" is already an established community, a bit different from this one, I use that term the most, because it feels... Well, accurate.

I love "Internet underground". I'm gonna start using it.

[Memory]

Now thinking about it, wouldn't these names just cause the Web Revival to be called different things in different places like how some animals have multiple names or how soda is also called cola or pop?