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« on: July 07, 2022, 12:23:32 am »

MelonLand Wiki

Hiii, ooph Iv been having one of those weeks where everything is difficult and I don't want to do anything  :-\ BUT I did scrape together a wiki based on Ice's suggestion!

Still not 100% on the design yet  :P Also its very empty! So I hope you guys will write some nice things on it to fill it out more! :P Please create pages and add whatever you want; for now Forum Rules and Guidelines apply to the wiki too please!

Im thinking its main use is to act as a place for community guides and definitions of things; the kind of stuff thats not so well suited to a forum. Everyone is free to edit everything, however please be respective and try to add information that is widely agreed on by people here.

To start writing on it you just need to log in with your forum account, so no new account needed! Lemmy know if you have any feedback or issues!

Enjoy  :4u: https://wiki.melonland.net
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2022, 01:41:12 am »

This definitely needs a ton of work. the button placement is just buttons stacked on top of each other which makes it challenging to navigate, and the color choice is just kinda, Idk. One suggestion would be to raise the article slightly to bring it to eye level to make it easier to read.

And I also don't really think you HAD to make a wiki, I created that topic because I was thinking of a possible wiki for Neocities, not necessarily asking for one. However, I am glad you made it and does have potential.

Edit: Ok, on second thought I might have gone a little too hard since this isn't finished yet.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2022, 02:00:56 am »

I don't know, I like the color scheme, it reminds me of cupcakes, and I found it easy and pleasant to navigate.  :melon:
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2022, 02:40:34 am »

I found it easy and pleasant to navigate.  :melon:

You know, you are kinda right, it get easier once you get use to it, but I still think it can be improved since there is a lot of space that can be used for organizing the buttons. Idk it's just comes to opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2022, 03:48:14 am »

I kinda agree with Ice on the color palette. It isn't as 'out there' as other melon-esque sites, but at the very least the yellow background isn't that pleasing to look at for long periods of time, even if its fully readable...

Also, will talk pages be coming to/are possible on this wiki? If you're not familiar, talk pages are common on most other wikis, and its where contributors can talk about the page's content and how it can be improved. If you want an example, here's a talk page on wikipedia, and here's a talk page on the wiki for Madoka Magica.

Speaking of wiki features: is it also possible to add templates to this wiki? As to what templates are, templates are snippets of code/text that can easily be repeated in articles via a template reference {{like this}}. Templates can also be made to have parameters for more diverse outcomes. The most notable template I can think of is the 'stub' template on wikipedia, which tells you that an article is a stub and needs expansion.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2022, 05:47:46 am »


Personally, I think that the wiki looks really cute! I'd be very willing to add to it if or when I get the time. Thanks for making us something so cool on a week you're not feeling that well. Hope you feel better soon  :4u:
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2022, 01:13:36 pm »

Wow a tough audience! I appreciate the directness and feedback! :o

Looking at it in the fresh morning light, Im quite happy with the Rugrats design; the yellow is softer than a harsh white and its much easier to read than most other colours. I gotta fix it on moble though!

As for the nav buttons at the top! There is a logic to them, each line has a purpose (login, wiki management, page management, search). I did test putting them all on a single row and that did not work at all.. ssoooo I  don't have a better idea right now (although we could snap the whole nav section to the right of the logo instead of under it, that would raise the main article as Ice suggested).. I think when we've all used it a bit more we'll have a better idea of how to improve it.

Ultimately there is no design that everyone will like, however I think adding a dark-mode toggle might help for some of you? (Would that help with the harshness Pepyogurt?)

Also, will talk pages be coming to/are possible on this wiki?
Speaking of wiki features: is it also possible to add templates to this wiki?
If you wanna dig in more its running on DokuWiki I think both of those features should be possible, but they might require plugins! I will defo look into them, but at the same time I wanna keep it super simple to start with so it's not intimidating for people to use.


Hope you feel better soon  :4u:

Thank you :4u: Im going to the countryside today for a week, I think I just need a change of air!
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2022, 07:47:27 pm »

Ultimately there is no design that everyone will like, however I think adding a dark-mode toggle might help for some of you?

As a dark mode user, this would help a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2022, 07:55:50 pm »

Ultimately there is no design that everyone will like, however I think adding a dark-mode toggle might help for some of you?

Yes please! :o

Edit: Also I hope your trip is fulfilling !
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2022, 08:18:38 pm »

Here is a small little update, So I tried using 150% zoom and the navigation started to make sense. If you have a large screen like I have, it kinda sucks, but when you use a smaller screen it works a lot better.

Here is a comparison:

100% zoom on 1080p screen:



150% zoom on 1080p screen:

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2022, 08:34:20 pm »

I'm so happy to see that you've started this wiki! It looks incredible too.  !<o
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2022, 03:02:25 pm »

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150% zoom on 1080p screen:
Oh you must have a really small OS scale, thats got it looks on a 4k screen for me!

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It looks incredible too.
One thing iv found its that light site designs are MUCH easier to read in bright sunshine! I you'll you'll add some pages about your sities!
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