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« on: July 26, 2023 @73.91 »

I'm thinking of trying to make a "Web Revival 101" zine! Something that I can print out and give out to people, yknow? I'm thinking it'll be one of those single-page cut-and-fold zines that people make.

My only issue is that I'm worried that I will either have too much info to give and not enough space, or not enough info and too much space. That latter problem isn't too bad, since I can just fill in the space with drawings or something. But the former is a problem, especially since I tend to be too verbose and write a LOT. It's really hard for me to condense a lot of info down into just the bare minimum of what you need.

What would you guys say should be the main topics I include in this zine? There are 8 small pages total for this style of zine, 6 if you don't count the front and back cover. I'm thinking of maybe including 2 pages each dedicated to "What is Web Revival", "Why make your own site", and "How to surf the web"? May need more pages per topic, may need less. I don't know, guess we'll see!

Again, any input would be fantastic! Ty in advance :D
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2023 @323.62 »

I think that "why make your own site" could maybe also include, "how to make your own site"? Like, with some pointers on where on the 'net to search for HTML help, or maybe talk about what you could include on a personal site. Other than that, I think the selected topics sound great!
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2023 @393.59 »

my general strategy for not writing too many words is to write the long thing first and then cut it down a lot until it is better. then I get all the thoughts out and organized and I feel more satisfied, instead of when I just try to get things right on the first try.

some sort of bibliography/further reading section could be nice, and means you don't have to stress as much about not including enough, but you still give people lots of info.

and if you need a filler drawing, a think I like to do in all my zines is make a "goodbye" page on the back cover with a drawing of a creature or object related to the topic saying "goodbye!" or "see you later!" or something like that to the reader!
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2023 @507.00 »

Hi @OneMillionFurries I was wondering if you ended up making this zine? I would love to see it :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2023 @121.69 »

This sounds really cool! If you ever make it, would you mind scanning it for all us Netizens to see? I know I'd be really interested!
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2023 @731.88 »

Hi @OneMillionFurries I was wondering if you ended up making this zine? I would love to see it :)
Not yet! im not much of a writer and i have ADHD so actually sitting down to write is EXTREMELY difficult for me. BUT i still really want to make it someday.

This sounds really cool! If you ever make it, would you mind scanning it for all us Netizens to see? I know I'd be really interested!
it would be made digitally so no scanning needed!
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2023 @872.67 »

Maybe you could include a list of hosting platforms or methods and their pros and cons, such as how much the paid version of different hosting platforms costs and what sort of storage space and permissible file types one can get out of different platforms.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2023 @177.35 »

Oooooh, I had made one! But I had converted the Yesterweb website's info into a zine, so 100% the materials and text were not mine. I just converted it into a different format using GIMP and printed a few copies to hide around my local library. There's a copy of it on my site here: https://cablecatscozyroom.neocities.org/library (Keep in mind, the zine I formatted is not up to date with more recent changes to the Yesterweb site.)

I think resources for hosting a site and learning HTML would be important to add to your Zine.

I also think maybe a nostalgia call to pixel and GIF artists, would be good. I would suggest definitely using statement typefaces and graphics! Things that will get people's attention. Also if you have your own Neocities site, maybe make a page with more information that you can direct people to from the Zine! With other zines I have made, I have used QR-code generators and then transfered the QR-code onto the Zine page, that way the person holding the zine can get the link with their phone! It is not time period accurate with the idea of web revival, but you could have a phone responsive basic info-dump page, and have a big note on it that says something like "CHECK OUT THE REST OF THE SITE ON A DESKTOP PC AND HOST YOUR OWN SITE!"
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2023 @464.16 »

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Seeing a single zine like this would be cool as hell, but if you have too much info for just a one off, perhaps you could make a small series? You could have a number of issues focused on a few different but related topics for example:

  • A few basic HTML/CSS/Java concepts and/or examples of how they can be used in interesting ways, it could be formatted as like a fun "top ten tags" or you could pretend to "interview" them
  • A small easy coding challenge for readers to try
  • Resources for helping people get into making their own sites
  • Some kind of love letter to some small aspects of the old web you enjoy and would like to see revived if possible and/or some history about them, for example:
    • buttons/stamps
    • ASCII/ANSI art
    • Creepypastas
    • Webrings and Link pages
    • etc.
  • An article about a particular site (active today or otherwise) that you felt keeps the spirit of the old web alive
  • Friendly reviews of some people's Neocities sites (probably get the webmaster's permission first for this one)
  • Short interviews with webmasters you think are cool about their sites or opinions about web revival

If you dont want to get into making a series thats cool too, i hope my suggestions help either way haha. Good luck making your zine!
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2023 @52.59 »

If anyone ends up making Zines like this, please let me know! I'd love to link to them on my site, and I do know a few places where you can leave free zines in my area :D
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2024 @272.26 »

@465.25

Seeing a single zine like this would be cool as hell, but if you have too much info for just a one off, perhaps you could make a small series? You could have a number of issues focused on a few different but related topics for example:

  • A few basic HTML/CSS/Java concepts and/or examples of how they can be used in interesting ways, it could be formatted as like a fun "top ten tags" or you could pretend to "interview" them
  • A small easy coding challenge for readers to try
  • Resources for helping people get into making their own sites
  • Some kind of love letter to some small aspects of the old web you enjoy and would like to see revived if possible and/or some history about them, for example:
    • buttons/stamps
    • ASCII/ANSI art
    • Creepypastas
    • Webrings and Link pages
    • etc.
  • An article about a particular site (active today or otherwise) that you felt keeps the spirit of the old web alive
  • Friendly reviews of some people's Neocities sites (probably get the webmaster's permission first for this one)
  • Short interviews with webmasters you think are cool about their sites or opinions about web revival

If you dont want to get into making a series thats cool too, i hope my suggestions help either way haha. Good luck making your zine!

Ooh, I'm REALLY liking these suggestions! Especially the reviews idea! Even the interviews sound fun too! I actually started a "How to Surf the Internet" zine a month or so ago, but I may try to do a few of these suggestions too :eyes:
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