Why I'm thinking about moving to GitHub Pages

[GlitchyZorua]

Why i'm deciding to move out of Neocities... in favor of GitHub Pages

Hello!

this is a bit of a controversial move by me, moving off neocities in favor of github pages. I really didn't wanna do this. But these 4 reasons makes me think otherwise 

First reason is because github has more features that are pretty damn useful to me, unlike neocities, like each repository having its own page.

Second reason is that managing two mirrors of my site is irritating enough; and It's making me less want to build my website more. and... hoo boy, the code for these two sites are getting messier and messier, the more i add features to them.

Third reason, is... well... SEO. If you search for "RetroJCity" on google (surround them with quotations, otherwise google will think its a typo), You'll notice that the github pages of my site pops up on the top, unlike my neocities version of the site. Normally, i don't focus on problems with SEO on my site, but... it's been up there for quite some time, and I don't really see a reason why I would need a neocities version of the site if the github version pops up on the top, and i don't understand why that is. I guess google thinks that my neocities site is a impersonation of the github site, which... kinda made me sad.

Fourth and final reason is that... uh... I've been using GitHub Pages long enough, and frankly, I don't see the reason why I should continue using neocities, if one is better then other. it makes me sick!  , and i guess thats why my github site is so seo friendly too... well, sort of.

That's my reasonings on why, why i'm thinking about ditching neocities in favor of github pages. I do plan on switching over to gitlab some day, but for now, github pages it is!

Lemme know what you all think, should i ditch neocities or nah? Do you agree with my reasonings? Please let me know. I love getting feedback!

[Melooon]

This has all been discussed before but I can break it down again!

• Neocities is technologically bad, its slow and awkward to work with
• Neocities.org urls have indie energy - Github urls have coder energy
• Neocities has an internal community thats very unique
• Neocities is developed and run by one person and is open source, they will not mine your data
• Github is technologically great, its fast and backed by the best server tech
• Github is owned by a large for-profit pro-AI cooperation, and they will mine your data
• Github is a much better tool for a budding software developer who wants to mess with web tech
• Neocities is a much better creative space for arts minded people and offers great inspiration
• Github connects better to the wider modern web network of SEO and search engines
• Neocities connects to its internal indie web network of its browse page, webrings and site badges

An honourable mention is that Nekoweb sits somewhere between the two in my mind; it resolves a lot of neocities technology limits and moves more into the coder-kid zone.

I do think having the same site on two domains is silly (I think you asked about this before and I recommended having two sites, but I meant two different sites!) Ultimately you have to decide what points on that list are important to you and what ones are not and make a choice based on your wishes! (Also be warned the list is prob bias to neocities because I wrote it  )

[GlitchyZorua]

This has all been discussed before but I can break it down again!

• Neocities is technologically bad, its slow and awkward to work with
• Neocities.org urls have indie energy - Github urls have coder energy
• Neocities has an internal community thats very unique
• Neocities is developed and run by one person and is open source, they will not mine your data
• Github is technologically great, its fast and backed by the best server tech
• Github is owned by a large for-profit pro-AI cooperation, and they will mine your data
• Github is a much better tool for a budding software developer who wants to mess with web tech
• Neocities is a much better creative space for arts minded people and offers great inspiration
• Github connects better to the wider modern web network of SEO and search engines
• Neocities connects to its internal indie web network of its browse page, webrings and site badges

An honourable mention is that Nekoweb sits somewhere between the two in my mind; it resolves a lot of neocities technology limits and moves more into the coder-kid zone.

I do think having the same site on two domains is silly (I think you asked about this before and I recommended having two sites, but I meant two different sites!) Ultimately you have to decide what points on that list are important to you and what ones are not and make a choice based on your wishes! (Also be warned the list is prob bias to neocities because I wrote it  )

Yeah, i know, github is a data hoarding ai cesspool, i plan on using gitlab pages some time, but i feel like i'm not prepared yet! 

[candycanearter07]

(I think you asked about this before and I recommended having two sites, but I meant two different sites!)

Why? What is the point of having two seperate sites?? I'm already fractured between too many different forums and trying to figure out what the hell how gemini even works and one incredibly broken site why would i need TWO sites i jsut want something i can point to to give to people why would i want this

[futurearcana]

FWIW there are ways to get around the un-coder-iness (is this a word?) of neocities. I have the code for my site hosted on codeberg (which btw offers a pages feature as well, as does gitlab) and I publish to neocities using a script (this to be precise: https://codeberg.org/gabmus/futurearcana/src/branch/main/deploy.mjs).

This said, if SEO is important to you, I'd move off of neocities, likely in favor of gitlab pages as it's easier to set up than codeberg pages. If it's not then just use whatever you prefer, use the script to automate your stuff, or don't, and keep hosting your code on some git forge.

[cmdr_nova]

I currently push my site through github and use a workflow to push it to neocities, with my own domain, so that no matter what, you always end up on the neocities version of the site (I would definitely recommend buying a domain, you can get one as cheap as 2 bucks)

But, I would also recommend against github, because they have a soft limit of like 1 gig. Albeit, my website is huge, and I haven't quite hit that mark. But ... I don't know what happens if you do.